1000 cc Abarth version of the Fiat 850 "SPIDER"???

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hi, can someone answer these questions:

I wondered if there has ever been a Abarth version of the Fiat 850 "SPIDER" delivered from the abarth factory with a 1000cc engine?
Or has there never been an Abarth version of the 850 spider??
Or were just some Fiat 850 spiders later on fitted with engines taken from 1000TC's or 1000OT Sedans or Coupes or A112's by their new owners???

There is a Fiat Spider for sale here in The Netherlands. The owner says it's an 982 cc original Abarth spider????? Any thought's??? Probably a 850 spider with 58hp A112 engine???

Alex van de Wetering

[rolands]

Yes It exist

[guy moerenhout]

yes there is one 1000 0T spider in holland for sale (Kout cars ) but this is a real race car ,there are two in belguim one with me and one mousset  please ,this is my ex rally car .In michelpont museuim there is also one  .Inow for one inItrtaly and that is all in europe that I now ,but I am not  God.   different form spider :  rear grill with poen lovers,signs   fiat abarth at noze ,also champione monde sign ,OT cheqeured sign rear ,1000sign,exhaust  abarth,202 abarth 982 cc engine ,abarth waterpomp, abarth steering wheel ,special shocks,abarth steel wheels or campagnolo and longer diff.That the differents!!!!!!!!!!!! guy

[Dooop]

Hello,
I don't know if this post is still active.
I've got a 1968 Fiat 850 Spider fitted with a Abarth 1000 engine (in Factory). The hart top is permanent.
There are also specific seats for pilote and co-pilote.
I have pics of you want, and I am also looking for information on this car (owned since a year now).
I am in Paris, and my email is cda@softcomputing.com
Dooop

[guy moerenhout]

hello,can you send me some photos of the car ?I now a friend that find one year ago one in Paris also: guy@abarth-gmr.be        :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

[Paul vander Heyden]

Yes,  I too can confirm that such a car was built, although not many.

The only difference is that the 1000OT engines were based on an 843 block, with a 74mm crank.   The OTR engine was also 982cc and based on the 843 block.

The TCR engines however were based on 600 based blocks.

If anyone is looking for replacement parts for the 982cc based motors, please make a visit to my website www.scuderiatopolino.com

Keep those Abarths going.

Paul vander Heyden

[guy moerenhout]

Sorry for the delay ,I have discutions about this and  I confirm there where two type of 1000 OT engine all market with 202  new style and old style ,not only the 843 block(base  1 serie  600) :oops:  :oops:

[Alstheone]

Re: Old posts on Abarth 1000OT spyder.  I have a heavily molested one that needs help..It has a front radiator but no piping etc.  I would appreciate any information, photos etc.  This one is a 1967, I think that  it was only built  in '67.  were there any later years built?  Any info wouldf be greatly appreciated.

[DaveA]

Hi all

does anyone have photos of an original Abarth 850 spider

Someone just called me about   one and I need to know how to tell a real one from a standard 850 witj Abarth badges,

this is a 1967 with covered headlights

Do the 850 abarths all have bigger motors ?

is there an Abarth  tag on them ?

or any record of serial numbers ?

thanks

Dave

[viotti600]

Sorry for the delay ,I have discutions about this and  I confirm there where two type of 1000 OT engine all market with 202  new style and old style ,not only the 843 block(base  1 serie  600) :oops:  :oops:

Fiat 850 843cc type blocks were used, not 600 series blocks. There were two types of 843 blocks available; early type with large round bulge on the exhaust side of the block (also used in some Fiat 850 Special & Seat 850, these cars used a normal spin-on oil filter fitted here) and later type without this round boss. Both were stamped "202".

Guy, you may be confusing this early type 843 block with the Series 1 600 block, because they both have a similar round side bulge in that area of the block?


-JS.

[viotti600]

this is a 1967 with covered headlights
Do the 850 abarths all have bigger motors ?
is there an Abarth  tag on them ?
or any record of serial numbers ?

They were the covered-headlight type, but used only European-style front end (with turn-signal lamps in body, not under bumper). The OT1000 Spider had the larger engine (982cc), basically an 843cc engine with 74mm crankshaft. The Fiat 850-based OT1000 did not have the metal Abarth ID tag like on the 600-based cars. Not many records were kept, but some chassis #'s have been recorded, you would need to ask John de Boer iicar@earthlink.net .

If you have photos of your car, I may also be able to help.

Cheers,
-JS.

[DaveA]

No  photos yet, hopefully on the weekend

The guy who has it now knows nothing about iit ,

he bought it because it was  next door to him and he always liked it,

But he is a V-8 guy and it does not have enough power for him :)

Anyway with ;luck I will get photos this weekend

Dave

[guy moerenhout]

hallo ,can you ask for a photo from the rear ,After this I can 99 % say iff its a 1000 OT our not.In the 1000 OT range where the two engines types fitted with and whitout bulge All type 202

[DaveA]

Hello Guy

I will try and get some photos this weekend,

Dave

[biketesting]

I saw one for sale in LA, on Craig's list, but it's a replica with a 1050 installed. It is a covered head light car though. It looks very nice.

[Casia]

Hi

In Spain Juncosa developed a version of 850 Spider with 1600 motor
Not an abarth version but is...another version of Spider




Regards

[guy moerenhout]

very interested car ,not .Is the car stille alive

[Casia]

The car was sold to a driver in Mallorca and was destroyed in an accident
Later the car was rebuilt and had another accident but i don't know if it was rebuilt this time

The developer of the car was Manuel Juncosa, the same that manufactured the Juncolotti gearboxes
This 850 had a "external" gearbox of an standard 850 but the "interior" of the gearbox was specific and manufactured by Juncosa (sorry but my English is not very good)

Greetings

[guy moerenhout]

its same like that from me/here whe call it =garagelanguisch =all litle from all

[John Rodgers]

I purchased a 1967 Fiat Abarth OT 1000 convertable in Melvindale Michigan, USA in 1967.  When my wife and I would visit a restaurant people would crowd around the car to see it.  We had ordered an 850 but when two abarths arrived we chose the red one.  It was a great car and fun beyond anything.  I had a friend with a TR-6.  He would blow me away on the straight aways but  I would nail him in the corners.  The car cost me $3,400.00.  I sold it 3 years later when children began to arrive.  The fellow who bought it raced.  attached are few pic

[evannice]

Hi John,

Sure would like to see those photos.  I remember sitting in a red 850 spider on the showroom floor when I was a kid while my dad bought a 124 wagon.  No Abarth versions though!

Eric